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February 12, 2011


James Pearce

Sub-optimal? Flattering :-)

15 years on, the web has still retained its ability to disrupt, so I wouldn't worry too much about the inevitable.

Jeremy Keith

Microsoft are planning to port IE9 over to WP7. Alas, that won't be until about August (however, Nokia aren't planning to switch to WP7 immediately either so the switchover could coincide with the upgrade).

While IE9 probably won't be quite as good as a decent Webkit browser, it's looking like it will have surprisingly good HTML5 and CSS3 support.

So what you are predicting would be entirely accurate if WP7 was going to stick with its current woefully-outdated IE7-based browser. Fortunately, it doesn't look like that's going to be the case.

That said, this is Microsoft we're talking about here so it's entirely possible that they could screw things up completely and not upgrade the browser on WP7 in time to make it count.

Tom Hume

James: well, my point would be that it's not inevitable; that a few interests would be aligned in seeing something else happen (users wanting better experiences, content providers wanting to make money) and that there are significant and ongoing technical problems (parity in performance of HTML-CSS-faked native and true native apps). Being disruptive doesn't mean you can do anything.

Jeremy: I don't think a better browser

To be clear: I'm not predicting the death of the web or anything like that... I'm just starting to see that maybe the web can't emulate every sort of native UI on the major mobile platforms.

Jeremy Keith

Ah, I see. I misunderstood.

If you're talking purely about web apps that mimic native apps, then yes, please bring on their death! Forthwith! They're as pointless as web apps that slavishly mimic desktop apps.

James Pearce

Painstakingly pastiched iOS pinstripes on a web site do look ridiculous in an Android browser. Pixel-perfect mimicry of one OS is foolish, as is trying to enforce UX conventions from one onto another.

On the other hand, you wouldn't want users to think: "Native apps? Those are the ones that look normal. Web apps? Aren't those the ones that are always inconsistent and a bit weird?".

Well, not too much. (And like they really care, anyway.)

Tom Hume

James: I find it hard to disagree with anything in your last comment, but think we're still pointing in opposite directions ;)

James Pearce

I seem to have that effect.

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